ede65, thanks for the post. the way you described may work, but i may have mucked up the procedure now. i unplugged my scanner after i couldnt figure out the procedure, and now that ive gone back to the car and tried what you described, heres what happens. i load up nissan program, go into NATS, and try to perform steering unlock, using both the old new new pin codes from keytechtools.com. and im sure that these pins are correct, at least the old one, because i had someone with a different pin code calculator generate what is being described as the old code for me, and it matches the old code from keytechtools.com. anyway, when i try to perform steering unlock procedure now, it simply says procedure not successful. and i still cannot get to a category to perform c/u initialization. and i dont know if it matters,but yes, i have had the flashers on when trying to do this, im assuming once you perform the unlock once, thats all that is needed until you register a new key to unit. but im afraid i may have messed up procedure since i have had scanner unplugged with steering lock unlocked. can you shed some more light on this situation please. and for what its worth to anyone reading, im in the mobile,alabama area if someone that has a consult 3 program wnats to come help, it would be appreciated and ill make it worth your while